[ESS] A bad help request
m@ech|er @end|ng |rom @t@t@m@th@ethz@ch
Sun May 17 18:03:27 CEST 2015
I 've got a new Laptop (with Fedora 21), also with Emacs 24.5.
I indeed have seen some slowish behavior inside ESS... I think in the
context of argument matching of functions also emacs dired is
extremely slow if used for a directory with 1000's of entries... but
definitely did not see bad startup behavior of emacs ..
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit using gmail.com> wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge ESS does not explicitly connect to internet.
> There is no auto update feature of any kind. Would be great if you could
> track the issue by stepping through ess-site.el and figuring out what piece
> is causing the hang. Thanks, Vitalie
> On 16 May 2015 at 17:04, Dr. Michael L. Dowling <Mike.Dowling using t-online.de>
>> Hello ESS mailing list!
>> I'm afraid that this will be a very poor help request as I simply was
>> not methodical enough to record exactly what I did and where. I would
>> fully understand if nobody can respond.
>> I have been using emacs now for decades and ESS for about 10 years. I
>> use Arch Linux. Towards the end of April emacs-24.5 was released. When
>> I started emacs, it behaved as though it just stopped in the middle of
>> loading, and could only be stopped with a "kill -9" on the emacs
>> process. I eventually realised that ESS was the culprit; comment it out
>> of my .emacs file, and everything was fine, except that I could not use
>> Now, I work in Hamburg, where I have no Internet, but return to my flat
>> in Braunschweig during the weekends. I decided to look into this in
>> Hamburg. But to my immense surprise, it worked just fine in Hamburg.
>> But my Hamburg PC is an identical copy on the Braunschweig PC; even the
>> same hardware. They are mutual backups of one another.
>> Back in Braunschweig, I turned off my router, and bingo, emacs started
>> normally. Keep the router on but turn off my firewall, emacs starts as
>> it should. Then I realised that emacs was not dead, but instead was
>> trying communicate via the Internet and was being stalled with time-outs
>> resulting from the firewall. Wait long enough, and emacs would start.
>> This is odd! Everything I would ever want to do on the Internet is
>> permitted. Things like initiating a TCP connection from outside are
>> not, with the exception of passive FTP which is permitted.
>> I have since updated my ESS package. However, initially also suspected
>> the icicles package, so I upgraded that as well. Then everything worked
>> as it should, here in Braunschweig with the Internet and firewall. But
>> not in Hamburg. These I had to create a sub-directory of ess/etc/ESSR,
>> I forget which.
>> What I suspect is that ESS tries to check with the repository perhaps
>> with a view to automatically updating (which would not work as with me
>> ESS is centrally installed by root). But that would be permitted by my
>> firewall! Why does ESS behave differently with and without Internet
>> Personally, I like to know when software connects to the Internet and
>> would like to give my explicit consent to it happening. Is this
>> configurable in the ~/.emacs file?
>> Sorry if this is too vague; I was not very professional with my
>> activities to document them properly. I thought I could remember
>> exactly what I did in Hamburg and what I did in Braunschweig, and so
>> construct a report. In the end, my memory lapsed. All the same, if
>> anybody has any suggestions, I would appreciate them.
>> Mike Dowling
>> Dr. Michael L. Dowling
>> Gaußstr. 27
>> 38106 Braunschweig
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