[BioC] Contrast Problem

Gordon K Smyth smyth at wehi.EDU.AU
Sat Jun 30 02:19:19 CEST 2012


Dear Aditi,

The reason you are getting unexpected results is that your contrasts are 
incorrect.  The meaning of a contrast is that it makes a comparison 
between the coefficients of the linear model that you have fitted.  Here 
are the column names of your design matrix:

  > colnames(design2)
  "(Intercept)" "accessions2" "accessions3" "accessions4" "genomes2"
  "accessions2:genomes2" "accessions3:genomes2" "accessions4:genomes2"

So when you take the contrast c(1,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0) you are comparing the 
first coefficient, which is the intercept term, with the second 
coefficient, which is a difference between accession2 and accession1 for 
the first genome.  It is not a comparison of any interest.

The interaction model that you have fitted is inappropriate for the 
questions that you want to answer.  I suggest that you instead redefine a 
single experiment factor with 8 levels, corresponding to all combinations 
of accession and genome, so that you can fit your model as a one way 
layout.  I think that will produce coefficients that you will find easier 
to understand and to take contrasts of.

I will not be able to provide more help for some days.

Best wishes
Gordon

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012, Aditi Rambani wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for your reply, sorry for not being clear enough.

> When you say different expression (DE) between genomes for all the 
> accessions, do you mean DE between genomes for each of the accessions 
> separately?  That is DE genes for A.F1 vs D.F1, for A.Tom vs D.Tom, for 
> A.Tx vs D.Tx and for A.Mx vs D.Mx?

Yes, that is what i meant. We do a contrast for A.F1 vs D.F1 like this : 
[contrast=c(1,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0)]. 

Our problem is that even when contrast is between A.F1(0 rpkm)  vs D. F1 
(0 rpkm) it has significant FDR, I dont understand how it can contrast two 
columns with zero values and show a significant differential expression. 
Also, it sometimes ignores genes with significant bias but that number is 
not very high.

> When you say DE between accessions, is that for each genome separately? 
> In other words, do you expect the differences between the accessions to 
> be relatively the same for each genome, or will the differences between 
> accessions be genome-specific?

We are not absolutely certain about what differences to expect from 
genomes between accessions. We do know that some accessions are more 
closely related than others and we can assume they will have a similar 
differential expression pattern. For accessions we did our contrasts like 
this :

acc1= Mx vs Tx  [lrt.acc1 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,1,1,-1,-1,0,0))]
acc2 = Tom vs Mx/Tx [lrt.acc2 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,1,1,1,1,-2,-2))]
acc3= F1 vs Mx/Tx/Tom [lrt.acc3 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(-3,-3,1,1,1,1,1,1))]

I have no way to test accuracy of these results because i dont know what 
is expected. I was hoping if we implemented the package correctly we could 
trust the results.

> Your comments about zero expression and not detecting significantly DE 
> genes don't make sense to me.  I won't try to respond to those comments 
> because I think sorting out the above questions will probably solve 
> other perceived problems as well.

- I will appreciate your input on this matter and thanks for looking into this.  

Aditi

> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:01:50 -0700
> From: Aditi Rambani <aditi_rambani at yahoo.com>
> To: "bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch" <bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch>
> Subject: [BioC] Contrast Problem
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I am a graduate student at Brigham Young University working on polyploid 
> cotton RNA seq data. Our study design has two explanatory variables, one 
> is 'accession' with four levels (F1,Tom,Tx,Mx) and other one is 'genome' 
> with two levels (A genome or D genome). We want to detect differential 
> expression of genes between 'genomes' from all the accessions and also 
> find genes that are differentially expressed between accessions. We 
> built a (Accession*Genome) model and did a contrast for two levels of 
> 'genomes'. In contrast results we see that many genes with zero 
> expression (0 RPKM) have significant FDRs and some significantly 
> differentially expressed genes are not detected. We are not sure why 
> this is happening, any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Aditi 
> 
> We are using following script to do our analysis but 
> 
> 
> library("edgeR")
> 
> counts <- read.table(INFILE, header=T, row.names=1)
> groups <- factor(c(1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,7,8,8,8))
> accessions <- factor(c(1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,4))
> genomes <- factor(c(1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2))
> 
> 
> design2 <- model.matrix(~accessions*genomes)
> 
> dge <- DGEList(counts=counts, group=groups)
> dge <- calcNormFactors(dge)
> dge2 <- estimateGLMCommonDisp(dge, design2)
> dge2 <- estimateGLMTrendedDisp(dge2, design2)
> dge2 <- estimateGLMTagwiseDisp(dge2, design2)
> 
> fit2 <- glmFit(dge2, design2)
> 
> lrt.acc1 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,1,1,-1,-1,0,0))
> lrt.acc2 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,1,1,1,1,-2,-2))
> lrt.acc3 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(-3,-3,1,1,1,1,1,1))
> lrt.F1 <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(1,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0))
> lrt.Mx <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,1,-1,0,0,0,0))
> lrt.Tx <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,0,0,1,-1,0,0))
> lrt.Tom <- glmLRT(dge2, fit2, contrast=c(0,0,0,0,0,0,1,-1))
> 
> 
> write.table(topTags(lrt.acc1, n=10000), file="acc1.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.acc2, n=10000), file="acc2.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.acc3, n=10000), file="acc3.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.F1, n=10000), file="F1.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.Mx, n=10000), file="Mx.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.Tx, n=10000), file="Tx.results", sep="\t", quote=F)
> write.table(topTags(lrt.Tom, n=10000), file="Tom.results", sep="\t", quote=F)


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