[ESS] Debian installation bug report with current package and Emacs 28.1
Tony Rossini
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Tue Sep 13 18:17:31 CEST 2022
does that affect eshell? i thought not and only shell?
On Tue, 13 Sept 2022, 17:56 Martin Maechler via ESS-help, <
ess-help using r-project.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Lionel Henry via ESS-help
> >>>>> on Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:33:22 +0200 writes:
>
> > Martin, did you have other concerns besides the freeze that we have
> > determined is an interaction between polymode and large
> `.libPaths()`,
> > rather than a bug in ESS?
>
> > If not, I think we should think about a release.
>
> > Best,
> > Lionel
>
> Thank you, Dirk and Lionel.
>
> I agree. I have been thinking about a release for some weeks
> now, but never got much time.
> We should push for it now.
> I really don't want to lose the Debian package of ESS (*).
>
> Really, the polymode maintainer and the rest of ESS core agreed a long time
> ago that a release should be for "ESS+" i.e. should be a __bundle__
> of "correctly" inter-working ESS + polymode.
>
> One thing that in my view *MUST* change in ESS is the current default
> behavior of ESS taking over *shell* (comint) buffers, by
> "thinking" such *shell* buffers should relate to some R package
> and its development, an R package where I have incidentally
> opened one file such as <pkg>/R/<file>.R
>
> There are many reasons people use a *shell* inside Emacs, and
> just because they also use ESS and open an R code file buffer of
> an R package does not mean that the *shell* buffer should
> somehow "become aware" of that package and its development.
> ... at least *NOT* by default.
> For me, this also makes *shell* buffer sometimes freeze (mostly just
> a second or two, but rare times much worse.. ).
>
> Martin
>
> ---
> *) even though at the moment only one oldish computer at my home uses
> Ubuntu LTS and otherwise, I use Fedora everywhere else --
> but *NOT* Emacs 28, btw!)
>
>
> > On 9/13/22, Dirk Eddelbuettel via ESS-help <ess-help using r-project.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> A follow-up to this bug report: Due to the breakage caused by the
> (old) ess
> >> package, I (as maintainer of the Debian package) now received the
> note that
> >> the ess / elpa-ess packages will be archived away from Debian
> unstable as
> >> they make Emacs 28.1 uninstallable.
> >>
> >> So future Debian releases will not have ess / elpa-ess package. Of
> course
> >> installation from other sources remains possible.
> >>
> >> We debated here for some time what to do about a new ESS release,
> but with
> >> nothing concrete to show, and this is now a consequence of
> (in)action. We
> >> are all between a rock and a hard place: the upstream is 'not quite
> right'
> >> for a release so none happens, yet Debian users want Emacs 28.1.
> So there.
> >>
> >> Dirk
> >>
> >> --
> >> dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd using debian.org
> >>
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