[ESS] why a release from time to time would be nice

[Toby Hocking]

Hi ESS devs,
Have you thought of trying to recruit a Google Summer of Code (GSOC)
student to work on ESS?
Each year R has 20+ students in GSOC who each work on 10 week coding
projects (June-Aug).
To recruit a student please write a project proposal and add it to the
R-GSOC wiki,
https://github.com/rstats-gsoc/gsoc2022/wiki/table%20of%20proposed%20coding%20projects
Student applications are typically in April so it would be a good idea to
get your project idea on the wiki by early 2022 (Jan-Feb at the latest), to
give you enough time for you to find an interested and qualified student.
You can email me if you have any questions about how GSOC works, and I
could even co-mentor the project if that would help (although I would
mostly be able to mentor the student from the perspective of an ESS user...
I don't have much elisp coding experience)
Toby

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:42 PM Detlef Steuer via ESS-help <
ess-help using r-project.org> wrote:

> Am Wed, 22 Sep 2021 19:53:15 +0200
> schrieb ess-help-request using r-project.org:
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 07:26:59 -0500
> > From: Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd using debian.org>
> > To: "Sparapani, Rodney" <rsparapa using mcw.edu>
> > Cc: "ess-help using r-project.org" <ess-help using r-project.org>
> > Subject: Re: [ESS] Advice on setting up ESS to edit and knit Rmarkdown
> >       files
> > Message-ID: <24907.8467.529784.900242 using rob.eddelbuettel.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > On 20 September 2021 at 13:59, Sparapani, Rodney via ESS-help wrote:
> > | Generally, this stuff should just work out-of-the-box.
> >
> > Understood.
> >
> > | And we are not a company like RStudio so this FOSS setup works for
> > us as | developers and hopefully it still serves the users well.
> >
> > But legal structure has nothing to with 'calling a release'. Which is
> > done by authors (who should know the code better than users) saying
> > "yep what we have at HEAD right now is good" and then cut a tarball.
> > That is a _marker_. Which some less-informed people like me can take
> > (and then ship downstream to Debian, and with that Ubuntu etc).
> >
> > Without a marker, no shipment. Less ideal to me and others.
>
> This! As Dirk says: No release, no packages in distros.
>
> I would happily update ess in openSUSE, but as a user it is very hard
> (impossible?) to find out what the status of ess is. As was commented
> in another message even the internal release numbers are not consistent.
>
> Looking forward to a 21.11 release :-)
>
> And thx for all your work!
>
> Detlef
>
>
>
>
> >
> > So pretty-please if someone would: could a release one of these
> > moons. It does not have to be frequent or regularly schedule or
> > anything.  But maybe more often than once every few years?  Maybe
> > when you sync with upstream Emacs (assuming you do now)?
> >
> > Dirk
> >
>
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