[ESS] ess-dump-object-into-edit-buffer

[Patrick Connolly]

G'day Ista,

I'm having trouble getting an example small enough to show.  Some work
properly and others (usually longer ones) don't.  Can't imagine what
makes the difference.

I'll be at the machine where I normally work and there I'll find a
small example.

Thanks for looking at my problem.

best
Patrick


On Thu, 12-Apr-2018 at 11:08PM -0400, Ista Zahn wrote:

|> Hi Patrick,
|> 
|> I don't use ess-dump-object-into-edit-buffer, so I'm not sure what
|> exactly you expect it to do. A specific example would help, i.e., a
|> description of exactly what you did, exactly what happened, and how
|> what happened differed from you expectation.
|> 
|> For example, if I start R with 'M-x R <ret>' and do 'M-x
|> ess-dump-object-into-edit-buffer <ret> getwd <ret>' I see a new buffer
|> is created containing
|> 
|> getwd <-
|>     function ()
|>         .Internal(getwd())
|> 
|> Is that what you see? If so, how does it differ from what you expect?
|> If you see something different, how does your setup differ from mine?
|> I'm running Emacs 25.3 and ESS 17.11 [elpa: 20180412.315]
|> 
|> Best,
|> Ista
|> 
|> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Patrick Connolly
|> <p_connolly using slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
|> > Thanks Ista.
|> >
|> > The result is not the same, but it's equally useless.  It produces almost
|> > the same as typing the name of the function and pressing <Enter>. That is to
|> > say, unless the function has been edited in the working directory, it lists
|> > all the code without any of the comments almost in the form of a list
|> > element labelled "structure" and a second element labelled "source" which
|> > contains all the source in the form of a character vector.   Quite a lot of
|> > text wrangling is required to get that text into the form of an editable
|> > function.
|> >
|> > There is a slight difference from what results from typing the function name
|> > and pressing <Enter>  in that the word "structure" is not in the latter and
|> > the source is an attr.
|> >
|> > (I say "almost" because neither form is exactly the same as how a list is
|> > displayed.)
|> >
|> > Is that intended behaviour?
|> >
|> > TIA
|> > Patrick
|> >
|> > On 04/13/2018 01:48 AM, Ista Zahn wrote:
|> >
|> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Patrick Connolly
|> > <p_connolly using slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
|> >
|> > Thanks for the response, however, if I start Emacs with a '-q' none of
|> > my ~/.emacs file is read, so Emacs doesn't know how to start R.  More
|> > to the point, I'm unable to run R within Emacs any other way.
|> >
|> > The usual recipe is to start with emacs -q and then evaluate
|> >
|> > (package-initialize)
|> > (require 'ess-site)
|> >
|> > in the scratch buffer, then check to see if you can reproduce the bug.
|> > If you have ESS installed in a way that it is not in your load-path by
|> > default you may have to do something along the lines of
|> >
|> > (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/ESS/lisp/")
|> > (load "ess-site")
|> >
|> > Best,
|> > Ista
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> > I gather there is a way of applying individual lines of the .emacs
|> > files but a bear with a small brain doesn't know how to do that (or
|> > where to look in the manual how to do it),
|> >
|> > It would appear, if it doesn't reproduce, that the problem is
|> > somewhere in my .emacs file.  That's a hodge-podge of various things
|> > I've picked up over the decades so it wouldn't be surprising to find
|> > some incompatibilities.
|> >
|> > Ideas appreciated.
|> >
|> >
|> > On Wed, 11-Apr-2018 at 07:44AM -0400, Ista Zahn wrote:
|> >
|> > |> I can't reproduce it with the latest ESS from melpa. Can you give
|> > |> reproduction steps starting with
|> > |>
|> > |> emacs -q
|> > |>
|> > |> ?
|> > |>
|> > |> --Ista
|> > |>
|> > |> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:58 AM, Patrick Connolly
|> > |> <p_connolly using slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
|> > |> > For a long time I used to be able to use
|> > |> >
|> > |> > ess-dump-object-into-edit-buffer
|> > |> >
|> > |> > to create a buffer that could be used to edit the designated function
|> > |> > from anywhere on the search path to make a local version.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > Starting at about ess-15.x, only the first 5 or so lines of code is
|> > |> > made available which I took to be a bug that would be fixed.  However,
|> > |> > I was mistaken.  I installed ess-17.11 and it's still the same.  Being
|> > |> > a bear with only a small brain, I can't imagine what use that would be
|> > |> > if it's what is intended.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > Could it be that there is an additional setting that allows all of the
|> > |> > function (including comments) to be dumped into that buffer?  Perhaps,
|> > |> > more difficult to track down, I have something else in my ~/.emacs
|> > |> > file that is incompatible.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > TIA for suggestions.
|> > |> >
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