[ESS] XEmacs or GNU Emacs

[Patrick Connolly]

On Fri, 07-Sep-2007 at 10:57AM -0700, David Stivers wrote:

|> On *nix systems, XEmacs looks much better and causes less
|> eyestrain, because it can use outline fonts (like pretty much every
|> other modern application) which support hinting.
|> 
|> Gnu Emacs can only use zaggy bitmap fonts. There is some effort to

Like that word: zaggy!  They're mostly pretty awful.  I'm very happy
with Lucida Typewriter for GNU Emacs (using those old-fashioned
colours for foreground and background) and for bash command line.
Very easy on the eyes.  I'm not keen on any of the other fonts.  It
can be hard to find.  In fact I never found a way to get it into
Kubuntu, but Fedora is doable with some effort.  (There's probably a
way to convert the rpm into a deb but that's another topic).

|> bring Gnu Emacs into the 21st century in this regard, but I don't
|> know when it will succeed.

I gave up on Xemacs many years ago when I couldn't work out how to
stop it bringing up a menu when I tried to highlight a section of text
with a right button click.  Not being able to paste text with the
middle button made it useless for my purposes.  People clever than I
might be able to do that but it seems I backed the right horse in the
end.







|> OTOH, I think that ESS works better under Gnu Emacs.
|> 
|> Yes, I'm annoyed that it's taking so long for gnu emacs to modernize!
|> 
|> David
|> 
|> 
|> Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa at mcw.edu> wrote: David Scott wrote:
|> >
|> > 
|> > Which is a question I have recently been considering.
|> > 
|> > I have used XEmacs for a few years. My usage is for R with ESS, TeX with 
|> > AUCTeX, sweave, .Rd files for my R package, a bit of mySQL and html.
|> > 
|> > Does either XEmacs or GNU Emacs have an edge these days? I have got the 
|> > impression the Emacs has advanced more than XEmacs recently.
|> > 
|> > Any opinions?
|> > 
|> > David Scott
|> 
|> This is a difficult question to answer.  ESS supports both and they are
|> roughly equivalent.  My personal opinion is that XEmacs is better on
|> Unix and Linux due to the wide variety of packages that are available as
|> a single download (sumo, but ESS is not one of them).  However, Emacs 
|> has certainly made some recent
|> improvements and I'd say it is already better on Mac OS X and Windows.
|> And, of course, why stop there.  There is also TeXmacs which is derived
|> from Emacs and SXEmacs from XEmacs.
|> 
|> Rodney
|> 
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