[ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs

[John Fox]

Dear Martin,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch 
> [mailto:ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of 
> Martin Maechler
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:21 PM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: ESS-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs
> 
> >>>>> "John" == John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca>
> >>>>>     on Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:32:15 -0500 writes:
> 
>     John> Dear Paul and Mark,
>     John> I've just taken a look at the current XEmacs setup 
> program for Windows, and
>     John> it has changed significantly since the document to 
> which you referred was
>     John> last updated (about a year ago). In particular, the 
> XEmacs setup no longer
>     John> gives you the option to install all packages, as I 
> recommended. Among these
>     John> is ess, which is not in the small set of packages 
> that XEmacs currently
>     John> installs, nor does ess seem to be available via the 
> packages tool in XEmacs.
> 
> 
>     John> I'm copying this response to the ESS help list, and 
> will remove the
>     John> XEmacs/ESS document on my web site so that people 
> aren't further misled.
> 
> Hmm,
> in addition to Tony's explanation...
> {and I hope you don't hate me for stating "the obvious":} it 
> would probably still be more useful if you *updated*  your 
> page instead of removing it....
> 

OK, I'll do that, but there seem to me to be two obstacles: (1) As I
understand it, I'll have to wait for version 21.4.19 of Xemacs. (2) Many of
the people at which the document is aimed -- relatively inexperienced
Windows users -- will have trouble dealing with the ESS tarball; it would be
much easier if they could simply get ess as an XEmacs package. 

A couple of other comments: When I wrote the original version of this
document (three or four years ago), I found XEmacs easier to use on Windows
than GNU Emacs, but that might no longer be true. As well, I no longer use
Emacs in my own work, so I'm not an ideal person to maintain the
instructions. I'm willing to do so, however, unless someone else wants to
take over.

Regards,
 John

> Martin
> {who has a link on the ESS web page which points to John's page...}
> 
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