[ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs

John Fox jfox at mcmaster.ca
Sat Dec 31 19:00:35 CET 2005

Dear Martin,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch 
> [mailto:ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of 
> Martin Maechler
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:21 PM
> To: John Fox
> Cc: ESS-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs
> >>>>> "John" == John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca>
> >>>>>     on Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:32:15 -0500 writes:
>     John> Dear Paul and Mark,
>     John> I've just taken a look at the current XEmacs setup 
> program for Windows, and
>     John> it has changed significantly since the document to 
> which you referred was
>     John> last updated (about a year ago). In particular, the 
> XEmacs setup no longer
>     John> gives you the option to install all packages, as I 
> recommended. Among these
>     John> is ess, which is not in the small set of packages 
> that XEmacs currently
>     John> installs, nor does ess seem to be available via the 
> packages tool in XEmacs.
>     John> I'm copying this response to the ESS help list, and 
> will remove the
>     John> XEmacs/ESS document on my web site so that people 
> aren't further misled.
> Hmm,
> in addition to Tony's explanation...
> {and I hope you don't hate me for stating "the obvious":} it 
> would probably still be more useful if you *updated*  your 
> page instead of removing it....

OK, I'll do that, but there seem to me to be two obstacles: (1) As I
understand it, I'll have to wait for version 21.4.19 of Xemacs. (2) Many of
the people at which the document is aimed -- relatively inexperienced
Windows users -- will have trouble dealing with the ESS tarball; it would be
much easier if they could simply get ess as an XEmacs package. 

A couple of other comments: When I wrote the original version of this
document (three or four years ago), I found XEmacs easier to use on Windows
than GNU Emacs, but that might no longer be true. As well, I no longer use
Emacs in my own work, so I'm not an ideal person to maintain the
instructions. I'm willing to do so, however, unless someone else wants to
take over.


> Martin
> {who has a link on the ESS web page which points to John's page...}
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