[ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs
Mark Leeds
Mleeds at kellogggroup.com
Sat Dec 31 17:32:08 CET 2005
Hi All : I am currently following Kasper's directions slowly
( I have no problem using GNU Emacs instead of Xemacs.
that fix is fine for me ) and I hope
to get it to work and will report back
as Martin asked. Again, Thanks to everyone for their
help. It's very much appreciated. I have never
used ESS anywhere but I am more used to linux and ,
since the new job I started at doesn't and won't use
linux, I figured I should try to make
my new environment ( windows ) as friendly as possible (
I am not a windows fan or user ) so I am hoping that
ESS will help me do this a little bit since I am
familiar with Emacs.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Maechler [mailto:maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:12 AM
To: Mark Leeds
Cc: Rodney Sparapani; ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [ESS] [R] ESS and Emacs
>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Leeds <Mleeds at kellogggroup.com>
>>>>> on Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:49:42 -0500 writes:
Mark> Hi Rodney : I am a novice and I appreciate your
Mark> response but what does RSN mean ?
"Real Soon Now" (``standard computer slang'').
Mark> Is there a way around this xargs problem.
{{ well, not working with Xemacs, since Rodney mentioned it was
a recent Xemacs bug :-) }}
Mark> Kapser Daniel was also kind enough to write me a long
Mark> explanation on how to install ESS and Emacs but I
Mark> haven't looked at it carefully yet ( it takes me a
Mark> while to get going on Saturday ) so I am not sure if
Mark> he addresses this problem but I'll let you know.
He addresses it indirectly: By using GNU emacs instead of
Xemacs. But of course, that may be a major decision you don't
want to take, but rather find a fix for the Xemacs problem.
Otherwise, Kasper's instructions look useful to me; and it would
be great if "nebies" like you tried them and reported if it was
easy to understand, ask back if there are things still not
clear, etc etc; so we could get a nice set of instructions for
"Installing Emacs + ESS on Windows for dummies" (;-)
Happy New Year to everyone!
Martin
Mark> It's so appreciated that experts like yourselves
Mark> respond like this. I am very bad with this
Mark> installation stuff and had to work up the courage to
Mark> even attempt it. Now that I have, I don't want to
Mark> give up. Thanks a lot.
Mark> Mark
Mark> -----Original Message----- From: Rodney Sparapani
Mark> [mailto:rsparapa at hpi.mcw.edu] Sent: Saturday, December
Mark> 31, 2005 12:23 AM To: Mark Leeds; A.J. Rossini Cc:
Mark> ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: RE: [ESS] [R] ESS
Mark> and Emacs
Mark> The xargs problem was a recent addition to XEmacs.
Mark> XEmacs version 21.4.19 fixes this problem and should
Mark> be released RSN, so check it out.
Mark> Happy Holidays,
Mark> Rodney
Mark> -----Original Message----- From:
Mark> ess-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch on behalf of Mark
Mark> Leeds Sent: Fri 12/30/2005 4:31 PM To: A.J. Rossini
Mark> Cc: ess-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [ESS] [R]
Mark> ESS and Emacs
Mark> Hi Mr. Rossini : I took the liberties of putting the
Mark> load command inside my Rinit.el file and have Rinit.el
Mark> as the target of my Xemacs icon ( see John Fox
Mark> directions for how to do that ).
Mark> Things definitely happen which is a good sign that I
Mark> never had before but they go so fast on the bottom of
Mark> the emacs page ( I think one of them is "loading
Mark> cus-face" but I can't be sure. I've tried running it
Mark> atleast 20 times to see if I can see what it says but
Mark> I can't ) but then , after about a second or two of
Mark> loading stuff, it gives an error :
Mark> "Searching for program : No such file or directory,
Mark> xargs".
Mark> Given that I don't know Lisp, maybe I should give up
Mark> unless this error means anything to you or anyone
Mark> else. Basically, I can't tell where it's bombing
Mark> because I have no clue about Lisp. Thanks.
Mark> Mark
Mark> -----Original Message----- From: A.J. Rossini
Mark> [mailto:blindglobe at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December
Mark> 30, 2005 11:37 AM To: John Fox Cc: R-Stat Help; Mark
Mark> Leeds; ESS-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R]
Mark> [ESS] ESS and Emacs
Mark> Whoops, sorry John. In the last few months, we took
Mark> off the XEmacs packaged ESS since it wasn't keeping up
Mark> very well with the tarball, due to complications,
Mark> mis-matched release schedules/requirements, and the
Mark> like.
Mark> It now needs to be installed from tarball, though
Mark> there is some help for that, I believe. (someone
Mark> remind me what it is!).
Mark> On 12/30/05, John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>> Dear Paul and Mark,
>>
>> I've just taken a look at the current XEmacs setup
>> program for
Mark> Windows, and
>> it has changed significantly since the document to which
>> you referred
Mark> was
>> last updated (about a year ago). In particular, the
>> XEmacs setup no
Mark> longer
>> gives you the option to install all packages, as I
>> recommended. Among
Mark> these
>> is ess, which is not in the small set of packages that
>> XEmacs
Mark> currently
>> installs, nor does ess seem to be available via the
>> packages tool in
Mark> XEmacs.
>>
>>
>> I'm copying this response to the ESS help list, and will
>> remove the XEmacs/ESS document on my web site so that
>> people aren't further
Mark> misled.
>> Sorry for the problem, John
>>
>> --------------------------------
>> John Fox Department of Sociology McMaster University
>> Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 905-525-9140x23604
>> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
>> --------------------------------
>>
>> > -----Original Message----- > From:
>> r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch >
>> [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of
>> paul sorenson > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:51
>> PM > To: Mark Leeds > Cc: R-Stat Help > Subject: Re: [R]
>> ESS and Emacs
>> >
>> > I tried it with XEmacs on Win XP and I had to install
>> ESS
Mark> separately.
>> > > Mark Leeds wrote: > > I have been using the document
>> written by John Fox titled Sn > > Introduction to ESS +
>> XEmacs for Windows Users of R.
>> > >
>> > > It's a very nice document and > > I went through it
>> carefully but I got > > an error when I finished it and
>> launched XEmacs.
>> > >
>> > > The error is "cannot open load file : ess-site".
>> > >
>> > > So, I did more investigation > > and it seems like
>> there is a folder
>> > >
>> > > Program Files/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ess
>> > >
>> > > that should have been created when > > I downloaded
>> XEmacs but it doesn't exist. > > There is a folder
>> called efs ( rather than ess ) but I don't think > >
>> that's it.
>> > >
>> > > I tried installing XEmacs again but the same thing
>> happened.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know anything about this ? > > I am
>> using Windows NT. > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Mark
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
Mark>
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Mark> -- best, -tony
Mark> blindglobe at gmail.com Muttenz, Switzerland. "Commit
Mark> early,commit often, and commit in a repository from
Mark> which we can easily roll-back your mistakes" (AJR,
Mark> 4Jan05).
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